Airports – Hearthingstone https://hearthingstone.org Polytheist Leadership Conference Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:05:45 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 https://i2.wp.com/hearthingstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/cropped-HearthingstoneIcon2018-Cream-2.png?fit=32%2C32&ssl=1 Airports – Hearthingstone https://hearthingstone.org 32 32 148950467 Hotel Rates and Dates from Venue Candidate #5 https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-rates-and-dates-from-venue-candidate-5/ Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:05:32 +0000 https://hearthingstone.org/?p=213 I’ve received a proposal from the last of the hotels I was waiting on out of about a dozen I sent RFPs to. This one gave a blanket quote for a large number of dates, which I will list further down. As with VC #2, this location is near the Read more…

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I’ve received a proposal from the last of the hotels I was waiting on out of about a dozen I sent RFPs to. This one gave a blanket quote for a large number of dates, which I will list further down.

As with VC #2, this location is near the airport and has an airport shuttle.

The area with a number of hotels near Austin's airport.

Their room rate is basically $120 a night, but they are only willing to block 10 rooms and that with an “attrition clause” where we’d owe them money if less than 80% of the rooms blocked are used. After those 10 are reserved, the pricing and availability would float like normal.

Their meeting room rate is slightly higher than #3, by about 5%. This puts them in the second lowest cost position- for now. I need to get back to VC #1 with a shortlist of dates to get a meeting room quote.

Here are all the dates they said were available (at present):

  • April 5 – 7, 2019
  • April 19 – 21, 2019
  • April 26 – 28, 2019
  • May 30 – June 2, 2019
  • June 14 – 16, 2019
  • July 12 – 14, 2019
  • July 26 – 28, 2019
  • August 23 – 25, 2019
  • November 1 – 3, 2019
  • November 8 – 10, 2019
  • December 20 – 22, 2019
  • December 27 – 29, 2019
  • January 3 – 5, 2020
  • January 10 – 12, 2020
  • January 17 – 19, 2020
  • January 24 – 26, 2020

Thoughts?

-In Deos Confidimus

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Hotel Rates and Dates from Venue Candidate #2 https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-rates-and-dates-from-venue-candidate-2/ Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:17:50 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=179 I received a response back from another hotel today. This one is right near the airport and has plenty of room to grow (as with Venue Candidate #1). Here are the best rate dates that I received from them: $100-110 for Single/Double June 28 – 30 July 5 – 7 Read more…

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I received a response back from another hotel today. This one is right near the airport and has plenty of room to grow (as with Venue Candidate #1).

Here are the best rate dates that I received from them:

$100-110 for Single/Double

  • June 28 – 30
  • July 5 – 7 (Independence Day weekend) [Cheapest]
  • July 26 – 27
  • December 20-22
  • December 27-29

$110-120 for Single/Double

  • August 2 – 4
  • January 3 – 5, 2020 (Also shown for VC #1)

As with Venue #1, the contact person was conscientious and the facility has a lot of room to grow. It does have a free airport shuttle (it’s right there, after all) and is on the Route 20 bus route to downtown in case people want to see the sights or go out on the town after the sessions.

Sadly, the per day meeting room rate is WAY more than expected- about twice the rate for Venue Candidate #4 and three times Venue Candidate #3. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding “per day” or they misquoted, but still… wow.

As part of my due diligence, I reached out electronically to a number of other hotels in Austin. Some declined, for various reasons. I’m waiting to hear from the others.

Thoughts on any of these dates in case I find them elsewhere?

-In Deos Confidimus

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Venue Candidate #1 https://hearthingstone.org/venue-candidate-1/ Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:09:44 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=162 At lunch today, I visited one of the hotels on my list. It rose to the top based on some feedback via the Facebook group. The hotel is certainly large enough to hold Hearthingstone for the foreseeable future, with nearly 200 guest rooms, plenty of meeting space, and so on. It Read more…

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At lunch today, I visited one of the hotels on my list. It rose to the top based on some feedback via the Facebook group. The hotel is certainly large enough to hold Hearthingstone for the foreseeable future, with nearly 200 guest rooms, plenty of meeting space, and so on.

It is located within walking distance (1/2 mile or less) of a number of restaurants, two movie theatres (including an artsy one), and is directly next to an old shopping mall that is being redeveloped into a mixed-use center including a community college, apartments, shops, and the like. It is one of four hotels in the vicinity that I’ve been interested in, and is the most walkable of the four.

That said, this part of town is fairly far from the airport and I don’t think this hotel offers a free airport shuttle. I need to remember to ask next time we talk. At least one hotel nearby does. The route from the airport isn’t complicated, but for those who don’t or don’t want to drive it could be an issue.

On the other hand, it’s the closest hotel to the Greyhound bus terminal, being a little more than a block away. As far as mass transit, there is a red line train (to downtown) stop about a 7/10 mile walk away. The route 350 bus stops a bit closer, but it’s still a hike. Given Austin (and Texas) mass transit in general, this isn’t bad, but it’s probably further than folks used to good transit systems expect to carry bags- especially if it’s a warmer time of year!

Speaking of times of year, I got a list of possible dates for this hotel. We cut off March of 2019 and earlier to leave enough time for planning and getting enough attendees. March and October are also the two craziest months for hotel space in Austin, apparently.

Here are the dates that the hotel is costing out for us:

  • April 5 – 7 (Would have to start late on Friday)
  • April 19 – 21 (Also being considered by someone else- Easter)
  • April 26 – 28 (Would be using less than my preferred rooms)
  • May 30 – June 2
  • June 14 – 16
  • July 12 – 14
  • July 26 – 28
  • November 1 – 3
  • November 8 – 10 (Veterans’ Day weekend)

August, interestingly, was booked solid. According to the hotel, it’s usually dead, but in 2019 it’s filled up. That might be for the best, given our summertime temperatures.

As far as other events, it looks like there are three possible conflicts amongst the events I’ve found. Spring Mysteries runs April 18-21. Mystic South is in-between the two July dates. Spiritfire hasn’t released their 2019 dates, but it’s usually in mid-July as well.

Of course, for those engaged in Celtic reconstructionism, the first weekend in November might easily create a scheduling conflict. So too for those practicing Mexican traditions. While Austin does have a large Dia de los Muertos celebration, attending it isn’t the reason for the conference.

The following weekend could be tight for folks whose work includes services timed around Veterans’ Day.

That’s my report for today.

-In Deos Confidimus

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Venue Considerations https://hearthingstone.org/venue-considerations/ Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:12:27 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=104 One of the most important questions to answer for any conference is “where?”- not just the city, but more specifically the exact facility. As a metropolitan area with more than 2 million inhabitants, Austin has plenty of possible venues. The trick is narrowing down the list of possibilities and reaching Read more…

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One of the most important questions to answer for any conference is “where?”- not just the city, but more specifically the exact facility. As a metropolitan area with more than 2 million inhabitants, Austin has plenty of possible venues. The trick is narrowing down the list of possibilities and reaching an agreement with one of them.

An important starting point is to determine a list of requirements and “nice to have” features.

For instance, it would be really awesome if the venue has a working fireplace or firepit that we can use. It’s not really a requirement, though.

When running through some of my early planning thoughts, I said that I wanted to aim for 100-200 attendees and hopefully be able to grow to twice that before needing to find a new site. One of the 2014 PLC organizers encouraged me to think simple first. Not just in terms of venue size, but also programming. I was thinking about three or four sessions at a time, she encouraged me to stick with two.

I’m torn.

On the one hand, this is a distinctly low-budget operation. I might end up collecting cans or something to pay for hotel deposits and the like. Going small to start with should help keep costs down and make all sorts of planning easier. Heck, I’m going to have enough trouble finding good people to run two sets of worthwhile sessions, let alone four!

On the other hand, I get the distinct impression we need to go bigger because of currents and tides outside of our awareness. More programming means more reason for people to attend, and one of the big reasons for Hearthingstone is to build human-to-human networks in support of the Gods’ purposes. But larger venues will cost more and require more of a deposit, so there’s more downside if I can’t get enough people to come.

So, what size does Hearthingstone need? The Quality Inn in Fishkill could seat around 100 in a classroom layout, plus there was a breakfast area that could also seat people. Of course, some events were not “classroom style”, so the seating capacity was significantly reduced in those cases.

Even keeping things simple, I’d still like to be able to accommodate 200 attendees. This gives us some flexibility to have sessions that take up a lot more space than a simple lecture- ceremonies and hands-on workshops, for instance.

Here’s a rough map of the areas that have hotels in Austin. Obviously, there are some hotels outside of these spots.

The green areas have hotels that might work. The red ones I’m excluding because of things like high crime, too little meeting space overall, or because the area gives me a headache.

There are some moderately-sized convention hotels outside of downtown (the most expensive area) that might work, but then again they might be too big. Many convention hotels will offer discounted (or free) meeting rooms if attendees book enough “room nights” at the hotel. The question being “how many is that?” Will Hearthingstone be able to draw enough of a crowd to “comp” the meeting rooms?

In another post, I talked about the need to connect the venue via public transit (or shuttle) to the places people will be arriving- the airport, etc. Obviously, this is easier downtown and becomes harder the further out we go. In considering more downtown versus away from downtown, there are several trade-offs:

  • Closer to downtown generally has better transit service.
  • Further from downtown is generally cheaper.
  • Further from downtown is generally less noisy and crowded, though not necessarily. Many other venues are either near the airport or a major highway.
  • Closer to downtown often has a wider variety of services within walking distance, though again not necessarily.
  • Ironically, downtown venues often have more access to greenspace because of parks along the river (“lake”).
  • Downtown venues typically have the least parking and they often charge for it, while venues further out tend to have plenty of free parking.
  • More of the venues downtown have meeting space large enough, whereas many of the further out hotels are simply motels and have little or no meeting space.

Personally, I have a soft spot for La Quinta because of their remarkably tolerant pet policy. We stayed almost entirely in LQs while moving halfway across the country with three cats. A cat breeder I know tends to stay in them for the same reason when traveling to shows. They also tend to be reasonably priced.

Unfortunately, few of them have meeting rooms larger than a boardroom. For instance, one that I stayed in last year (during apartment renovations) has only 2 meeting rooms and the largest seats only 35 people, classroom-style. The largest LQ meeting facility in town tops out at about 105 people. That might be enough, but it’s also the most expensive LQ in town ($175/night)- about twice the cost per night of the cheapest.

Speaking of pets, this raises another important point. Some attendees may be required to travel with animals- service companions and/or animals who work with them spiritually. While most hotels are pretty good about service animals, many are downright draconian regarding “pets”.

Another consideration is food and alcohol. Many of the more conference-focused venues will have their own catering service and possibly even an alcohol license. As I talked about in another post, we might need to provide food and (soft) drink for attendees, which becomes unmanageably expensive if catering is involved. As far as alcohol, if the venue has a license, we get into questions of “corkage” fees and/or waivers if any of our events involve open containers of alcohol- even offerings.

That’s probably enough ruminating about hotels and locations for one evening.

-In Deos Confidimus

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Host City Considerations https://hearthingstone.org/host-city-considerations/ Sun, 22 Jul 2018 18:15:22 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=88 I live in a major metropolitan area (with three more within a few hours’ drive), but it’s no New York City. Our airport (AUS) is the 35th busiest in the US, which is something- but travel here will still likely be more expensive and difficult than to Las Vegas or Read more…

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I live in a major metropolitan area (with three more within a few hours’ drive), but it’s no New York City. Our airport (AUS) is the 35th busiest in the US, which is something- but travel here will still likely be more expensive and difficult than to Las Vegas or one of the big coastal cities.

At the same time, if I can pull this off at all, it will be on a shoestring budget. I can’t afford to be hopping a jet every week to check out hotels and such. At least for now, any conference I’m organizing will need to be pretty much in my backyard. It’s possible that San Antonio, Houston, or even DFW would be a bit cheaper, but my research thus far doesn’t suggest that it’s enough to make it worth my time to make those drives frequently. Plus, none of those cities has a strong reputation for tolerating differences- Austin does.

This is important in a number of ways. For instance, many shamans, spiritworkers, and mystics possess a gender identity that is not recognized by a substantial portion of the US population. Many Austin businesses (though certainly not all) offer non-gendered restrooms and/or try hard to be conscientious of gender identity.

Furthermore, many of these leaders are also subject to significant restrictions regarding diet, dress, and the like. Others carry physical scars and ailments that require special accommodation to prevent extreme discomfort and suffering. Holding the conference in a major city makes it easier to find the goods and services (and service providers) necessary to ease this burden.

For instance, I can easily source vegan, gluten-free, organic, and/or humanely-pastured food from several different vendors. Austin might be Whole Foods’ headquarters city, but we have lots of other places, large and small.

I am fully confident that this city can comfortably support a polytheist leadership conference.

Of course, being in Texas, the season is important. March is a beautiful time of year, weather-wise, but that’s when SXSW happens… good luck booking a flight or a hotel during that! March is also during the school year, and many members of our target audience are academics- teachers, professors, graduate students, and such.

For that reason, the 2014 PLC was held in July- a perfectly reasonable time to visit New York state. Austin, however, topped out around 104°F (40°C) today. Sure, there’s a hemisphere-wide heat wave going on right now, but temperatures in the high 90s are not unusual here in summer, or late spring and autumn for that matter.

While most of the conference will be indoors (though it would be nice to have some outdoor events), we have to consider the possibility that some attendees will want to sleep outdoors or in their vehicles either because of religious strictures or to save money. This is not unprecedented, so I need to take it into consideration.

Another important transportation-related consideration is vehicle access and mass transit.

Being in Texas, many venues have plenty of parking. If you’re not sure what I mean by this state’s love of the automobile, I encourage you to visit the Buc-ee’s convenience store in New Braunfels, about 45 minutes south of Austin.

On the other hand, no city in Texas has particularly great public transit. Austin’s is improving, but I will need to plan carefully around the available bus routes to make sure that non-driving guests can get from the airport, Amtrak, and Greyhound stations to the conference venue.

-In Deos Confidimus

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