Hospitality – Hearthingstone https://hearthingstone.org Polytheist Leadership Conference Sun, 14 Oct 2018 00:50:28 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 https://i2.wp.com/hearthingstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/cropped-HearthingstoneIcon2018-Cream-2.png?fit=32%2C32&ssl=1 Hospitality – Hearthingstone https://hearthingstone.org 32 32 148950467 Hotel Rates and Dates from Venue Candidate #4 https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-rates-and-dates-from-venue-candidate-4/ Sun, 14 Oct 2018 00:50:28 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=202 This is the fourth hotel I’ve gotten any pricing back from. This one only looked at one date despite my request for some other dates to consider. Their rate was just shy of $120 per night for Nov. 8-10, 2019- so about $20 more than #1, which also quoted that Read more…

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This is the fourth hotel I’ve gotten any pricing back from. This one only looked at one date despite my request for some other dates to consider.

Their rate was just shy of $120 per night for Nov. 8-10, 2019- so about $20 more than #1, which also quoted that date. They are, however, the only one that explicitly included a hot breakfast buffet for up to four people per room.

This hotel is located next to candidate #3 and across the highway from #1.

Unlike #2 & 3, they have free parking (like #1) and they also have no airport shuttle.

Their meeting room cost for the weekend is half that of #2 and about 50% more than #3. If we decide to pin down for a different weekend, I can probably get a new quote, but I expect it will be similar.

Thoughts?

-In Deos Confidimus

 

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Hotel Rates and Dates from Venue Candidate #3 https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-rates-and-dates-from-venue-candidate-3/ Sat, 13 Oct 2018 16:35:57 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=197 I received a response back from another hotel today. This one is just across the highway from Venue Candidate #1 and was recommended by another member of the Facebook group. Sadly, this hotel has fewer dates available (or quoted fewer). I haven’t spoken with the rep there- they called, but Read more…

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I received a response back from another hotel today. This one is just across the highway from Venue Candidate #1 and was recommended by another member of the Facebook group.

Sadly, this hotel has fewer dates available (or quoted fewer). I haven’t spoken with the rep there- they called, but didn’t leave a message.

$100-110 for Single/Double

  • August 23-25
  • December 20-22 (Also quoted by #2)
  • December 27-29 (Also quoted by #2)
  • January 3-5, 2020 (Also quoted by #1 & #2)

It turns out this hotel does not have an airport shuttle as we thought; however, they do have a local shuttle that goes out 2 miles.

As far as meeting room costs, this hotel’s total price is equal to the daily price for VC #2. On the other hand, this hotel charges for parking- in this case $15+ per day. VC #1 does not, but #2 does.

I feel like I need to get a couple of other quotes from smaller hotels and then decide on a date and venue. But, smaller hotels wouldn’t have a lot of room to grow and we’d definitely have to cap registrations.

Thoughts?

-In Deos Confidimus

 

 

 

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Hotel Room Estimates From Venue Candidate #1 https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-room-estimates-from-venue-candidate-1/ https://hearthingstone.org/hotel-room-estimates-from-venue-candidate-1/#comments Fri, 05 Oct 2018 04:47:57 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=182 I received hotel room rate estimates from Venue Candidate #1. Rates are Single/Double occupancy, per night. Under $100 (Barely) April 19 – 21 (Also being considered by someone else- Easter) June 14 – 16 July 12 – 14 November 8 – 10 (Veterans’ Day weekend) January 3 – 5, 2020 Read more…

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I received hotel room rate estimates from Venue Candidate #1. Rates are Single/Double occupancy, per night.

Under $100 (Barely)

  • April 19 – 21 (Also being considered by someone else- Easter)
  • June 14 – 16
  • July 12 – 14
  • November 8 – 10 (Veterans’ Day weekend)
  • January 3 – 5, 2020

$100-120

  • April 5 – 7 (Would have to start late on Friday)
  • April 26 – 28 (Would be using less than my preferred rooms)
  • May 30 – June 2
  • July 26 – 28
  • November 1 – 3
  • January 10 – 12, 2020

Over $120

  • January 17 – 19, 2020 (MLK Day weekend)
  • January 24 – 26, 2020

So far, the staff contact has been wonderful and I like the space. However, it turns out that they don’t have a free airport shuttle. With perhaps 80% of our attendees coming from out of the area, we’d need to think about options.

It’s been a really busy week at day job, but I need to reach out to at least a couple of other hotels. I found one right at the airport, but would that be too noisy?

Thoughts on the dates above? I’d like to aim at the cheaper end if possible, but so far no dates are jumping out at me as ideal.

-In Deos Confidimus

 

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Hotels – Refining the List https://hearthingstone.org/hotels-refining-the-list/ Sat, 28 Jul 2018 22:36:59 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=121 I’ve been whittling through a massive list of hotels and encountered a few interesting possibilities. First of all, after some careful review, the downtown hotels are just too damned expensive. For every hotel that I’ve considered, I tried to price a room with a king bed for the last weekend Read more…

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I’ve been whittling through a massive list of hotels and encountered a few interesting possibilities.

First of all, after some careful review, the downtown hotels are just too damned expensive. For every hotel that I’ve considered, I tried to price a room with a king bed for the last weekend in October 2018 (just a consistent date several months away, not a date I’m considering). The cheapest hotels I could find downtown with adequate space were nearly $300 a night! Some were as high as $600- NO FRICKIN’ WAY!

My best results were in the north-central parts of Austin. These areas have been experiencing a lot of rebuilding, both from gentrification (bad) and renewal of old industrial/commercial areas into more modern uses (good). There are also some traditional conference hotels in this area with fairly reasonable pricing, though I worry about going to someplace that’s too big right out of the gate. For example, one place that runs about $155 a night (most places are usually cheaper if booked for a conference) has around 24,000 square feet of meeting space!

That’s too big. The first Hearthingstone would be a drop in the bucket for them, so we’d have a hard time negotiating.

On the other hand, I’ve identified a couple of promising venues, though each presents their own challenges.

One has just under 2,000 sqft of indoor meeting spaces (and a 1,500 sqft pavillion) available, plus outdoor fire pits and a fairly reasonable pet policy. It’s also about a mile from a large Whole Foods. It’s located in a reclaimed industrial area that’s been converted into a mixed-use development. But it’s also the more expensive of the two, starting at $179 (they advertise $149 for groups of 10+), which is pretty cheap for the rather upscale development it’s in.

The other is a suites-only hotel (many with kitchens!) with a decidedly “green” bent, fireplaces in many of the rooms, and a distinctly cheaper price tag- $119 a night! That’s before any consideration of group discounts. They’re big on hypoallergenic cleaning, organic food, solar panels, and they even have an electric car charging station (there’s a Tesla charging station going in around the corner, too.).

The downside? They don’t really do meetings.

Their only meeting room seats about 35 people, max. They have a dining room, and a nice fireplace in their lobby- but those aren’t reservable as private space. Going here would mean booking extra rooms just as meeting spaces, and I’m not sure how well that would work.

That said, their suites would make travel a LOT cheaper for people because of the kitchens- plus some of their suites sleep up to 5. That’s $159 (+tax) split up into about $32 a night per person, which makes attendance more affordable for many folks. I haven’t yet heard about their pet policy, though.

I’ve reached out to both venues, though I’m strongly considering the latter if I can figure out a way to accommodate the meeting space needs. Also, Google Maps shows a “church” at the same address, so I’ll need to assess these folks’ openness to a polytheist leadership conference. It could just be an old listing. Both are within half a mile of bus stops requiring only one transfer from the airport bus, so that’s a plus!

On the downside for smoking attendees, just about everywhere in Austin seems to be non-smoking. On the upside for non-smoking attendees… just about everywhere in Austin seems to be non-smoking.

Whew- lots and lots of hotels looked at!

Now to see if I can work something out with any of them…

Thoughts?

-In Deos Confidimus

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Some Practical Considerations https://hearthingstone.org/some-practical-considerations/ Tue, 24 Jul 2018 01:18:05 +0000 http://hearthingstone.org/?p=97 When running a conference, there’s a lot more to it than simply booking a hotel and a few meeting rooms. A well-run convention provides a great many things beyond a location. Obviously, programming is a huge concern. I touched on this in another post, but just knowing how many of Read more…

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When running a conference, there’s a lot more to it than simply booking a hotel and a few meeting rooms. A well-run convention provides a great many things beyond a location.

Obviously, programming is a huge concern. I touched on this in another post, but just knowing how many of what kinds of sessions you want to provide is just the beginning. Here are some example questions that need answering:

  • How will we locate good people to run those sessions?
  • How will we fill sessions for which we are having trouble locating people?
  • Will speakers, facilitators, etc. receive free or discounted admission, and if so, by how much and for how many sessions?
  • Will we pay travel expenses for some of those people? Who and why?
  • How do we determine what sessions go into what event spaces?

Obviously, there are a lot more questions, but those are some of the highlights.

Another issue to consider is vendors. It is not unusual for conferences to have vendors, who may or may not pay for the space they occupy. While Hearthingstone is primarily a conference about religious issues, many traditions do not separate commercial activities from the sacred. Furthermore, a large number of polytheist leaders support themselves or substantially supplement meager incomes through vending.

However, offering a dedicated vendor space with rented tables presents liability concerns, such as the provision of security and the need to carry additional insurance. I know of some conventions that fell down in this regard, and it was not pretty.

Speaking of meager incomes, it is not unusual for conventions to have a hospitality suite that provides light refreshments to any attendee free of charge. Based on past experience, we should expect that at least a few attendees will be in need of more substantial food. While Austin has ample supermarkets and restaurants, some of them operating 24 hours a day, not every attendee will have the means to make use of them. Hearthingstone will probably need to find a way to supplement these folks’ food supply.

In addition to food, many of our traditions involve the offering of alcohol, tobacco, and the like. Because Texas is a “blue law” state, we will need to make sure that attendees are made aware of the location and closing times of nearby sources, as well as legal limitations such as areas where smoking is prohibited.

One of the important ways of communicating this, and other important information is the convention program book. There are a great many questions to answer around this publication.

For instance- what paper size do we print it on? Smaller books are more portable and easier to lose, while larger books are easier to read but less easy to carry around and are generally more expensive.  Just a quick glance at Office Depot’s website tells me that even a spartan 12-page book will cost between $1.60 and $2.30 per copy for a black-and-white book.

Since Hearthingstone is partly about networking, it might make sense to print a small contact blurb for each pre-registered attendee (unless they opt out). Even at a minimal size, that’s potentially 5 or so extra pages for 100 people, more if we include space for a small picture. We could put these online instead, but building a way to show it only to registered attendees could be tricky. Do we put the book online?

Speaking of opting out, while many Hearthingstone attendees are public representatives of their traditions and/or communities, we can’t forget that some may still have very good reasons to keep their names and faces separate from their faith. We will need a way of balancing the educational benefits of recording sessions and sharing them afterward with the need to allow some folks to opt out of appearing in public. The same applies to any press releases or other media attention we eventually decide is appropriate for the conference- how do we raise the profile of polytheisms generally while protecting attendees whose identities need to remain private?

Lots to think about…

-In Deos Confidimus

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